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PostSubject: What's your favourite Banger?   Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:18 pm

Mark 2 Golf no question, ideally with GTI bits. Land Rover Series 3 also does the business and a 1976 Datsun Cherry, though they have all rusted to bits by now. Any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:29 pm

Bit quiet around here eh? Very Happy I've been waiting for a forum like this for ages, I'm sure the visitor count will perk up if it's promoted a bit more.

Favourite everyday banger would have to be a P10 Nissan Primera - the engines and underpinnings are indestructible so you can just drive them instead of doing running repairs all the time and you can pick them up for less than £100.

Madness banger, something like an AMC Eagle. Though the cost of importing one may outstrip the value. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:09 pm

Welcome aboard! Yes the idea is to get some decent discussion about running cars for nowt. It is quiet but I am trying to get some interest going because I know that this is a hugely popular subject...
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Fri May 18, 2007 9:53 pm

I suppose an old Fiesta fits the bill, preferably the mid-Nineties facelift with the 1300 lump. Cheap to buy, dead easy to fix and plentiful spares wise. Not bad to drive, either.

An 89-96 Rover 200 is quite nice and was leagues ahead of the Escort and Astra and still quite plentiful; just the K-Series HGF lets it down really, but if you go for a diesel or the 1.6 Honda you'll be okay. The Golf eating 216GTi has to be worth a sniff. Still quite classy as well.

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Fri May 18, 2007 10:15 pm

I've got a lot of time for Rovers, especially the Honda engined ones as I've got a 600 in the family which really should have died by now but still keeps on going, it's a K plate with a million miles...
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Sun May 27, 2007 11:39 pm

Agreed...

There's no question that the optimum Rover in the Bangernomics camp has to be the Honda engined 620. Tough as old boots, will go forever with minimal maintenance, and it has styling that isn't quite as embarassing as the usual sub £500 choices...

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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Mon May 28, 2007 12:00 am

Spot on, the 600 is a wonderful piece of kit....J
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PostSubject: Hello from Melbourne, Australia!   Wed May 30, 2007 10:57 am

I'm about to sell my 96 Suzuki Baleno (a banger in the UK, I know!) for $5000 & buy my Mum's 1985 Toyota Corona for $2500. The idea of running something that is not only old, but near mint, easily repairable & with only 108,000km on the clock is too much!

Have a copy of the Bangernomics book; glad there is now a site for this subject.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Wed May 30, 2007 11:28 am

Hello Sputnik, I have a lot of time for Suzukis which basically don't break down. Glad you have a copy of the book although it is very out of date now. i did update it and do a photocopy version but I wasn't that happy with it so I am thinking of doing some other version...Keep up the good work on the buying bangers front...
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PostSubject: Hello all, great site!   Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:49 am

First of all hello! What a great idea to have a place were idea's can be swaped on the running of older cars. Very Happy
Yes the old Roverís are a great and now cheap car to run. I used to have an old 820.
It was fantastically reliable, only ever needed the usual things replacing (tyres back box on the exhaust) Not really great on MPG but not excessive. The bodywork was a little rough around the edges but no matter.
Had the Rover for two and a half years and enjoyed driving it every day for pennies!
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:57 am

Hello Nobby, nice to have you around these parts. I do feel that Rovers get really bad press because like you say in most cases it is usually just the wear and tear bits that need sorting. Overall they are cheap to run and in their own way quite stylish and different these days...
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PostSubject: What's your favourite Banger?   Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:20 pm

Yes I agree with you, the bits of trim were really the only thing that let the Rover down. My 820 had the usual dash ‘lift’ and one or two loose bits of trim inside the car. But it did look stylish in its own way, and was easy to spot on a car park!
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:36 pm

Absolutely, it makes me want to go and buy one and I must go and look at that wedge site right now.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:50 pm

Ooer...sounds like trouble brewing!

Just wish we had cheap Rover's in Aus...but that may be a good thing, as I'm a sucker for the old homegrown stuff & would end up with 15 heaps, only one of which actually worked, as the rest would be 'future restorers'...
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:42 pm

As I've posted elsewhere the Wedge site is absolutely brilliant and a real labour of love and yes it does make you want to go and get one...
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PostSubject: Bubble Micra   Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:28 pm

Nissan "BUBBLE" Micra

I've got two.

One M reg, the other N reg. One was bought for £500, four years ago. Only missed a beat once or twice. Usually in the damp.

The other is a "Goldstar" special. Tacky fake wood, etc...
Got it for nothing. Really. A colleague was scrapping it.
(Got me into loads of bother, that. "Why can't you just bring stray dogs home, not bloody cars..")

It has a fault whereby it stops dead once it warms up. Trouble is, it now won't start at all. Makes a loud click-click-click-click noise when I try it. Damn.

Any ideas?

I thought of just replacing both the silly underbonnet fuse/relay boxes en-masse, and crossing my fingers.

What do you think?




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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:46 pm

Sounds lovely the Goldstar, so couldn't you make one good one out of two. I agree that messing about with the wiring sounds about right, but I'm not mechanic, so we need to start a tech help thread and get the people who spanner involved.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:43 pm

Started by identifying real simple technology cars ie no electronics like ECUs, catalysers etc. The best was the 1990 Volvo 740 estate base model. Just for one year Volvo did the then new facelift model with the old 2.3 carb engine from the ultra reliable 240, tons of torque compared with the newer 2.0 fuel injection. The 740 base model is as simple as a Morris Minor and ten times as reliable. Its only concession to modernity is electronic ignition and heated seats. Look for manual sunroof, windows, etc - no electric motors to burn out. It all adds up to cheap servicing, parts and running. For years 740s were the UK's biggest selling estates, so plenty of secondhand stuff from the scrapyards if you need it too. Lots for sale on Autotrader, from £100 - £500, even one owner, FVSH cars are less than a grand. Eat high mileages, at 100,000 miles they are only half-way through their life, when cars like Fords are falling apart.
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PostSubject: Volvo   Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:50 pm

Spot on Rock Dad, the less of those electric blighters the betters. I've got an old school landrover which has still got points and nothing could be simpler. I love the old Volvos although someone said on 5th gear they crashed one into a Renault Modus and it was rubbish. Don't crash then.....I'm not being flippant but a millions aairbags and traction is overrated if it makes you lazy and complacent. The landie has drum brakes and the most remote steering ever and as a result I drive accordingly....went off topic there but never mind...
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:51 pm

Someone once said that the driver's airbag should be replaced with a big spike. That'd slow people down!

My father-in-law has a top-of-the-range 2001 Renault Megane; what a nightmare affraid Every week he calls me to go over and look at something that has either packed up (the wipers last week) or fallen off, so I'm trying to persuade him to by a nice 2003 Kia Rio with keep fit windows, no ABS, one airbag and only 36k. He's just turned 70 so street cred is the least of his worries. How can he go wrong with a Kia?

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PostSubject: Her name is Rio   Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:57 pm

Car magazine road testers will tell you how grim they are, but then they don't have real life running costs to consider and not everyone needs to go round a corner at 90mph. I love Kias, they don't break down. Oh yes and my Mini has a spike, aka the Routemaster bus steering column...
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PostSubject: What's your favourite Banger?   Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:57 pm

A more unusual alternative to the Volvo 740 base as a super-simple motor is the Japan-only Nissan Pao. These are 1989-90 Nissan Micras restyled as Renault 4s. They are from the same Pike series as the better known Figaro. The Pao has a 1 litre engine, no cat, no electronics, even points ignition. It comes with a/c however. Most are automatics, and have 2CV-style full length fabric sunroofs. I'd go for a manual gearbox, solid roof model. These are sold by Japanese exporters for about £1500 + £500 ship charges. They're all RHD of course, and just need the addition of a fog-light to be legal. Anyone have experience of these?
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:01 pm

A lady at work has recently bought a Nissan Figaro, slightly overpriced and overrated really for a fancy Micra, which does look a bit odd from some angles. I hear they're quite reliable though.

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PostSubject: Figaro   Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:11 pm

Figaro: I like the French 1950s sports car style but not the auto gearbox, turbo engine, too complex for my taste. Any other ideas for super-simple motors? Seems like 1990 is the cut off point, everything after has a cat, ECU and the rest.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your favourite Banger?   Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:31 pm

VW Scirocco ?

Manual steering (ie not PAS), Carberetter depending on model (mine's the injection version), normal windows, no cat, although mine does have a clever trip computer and digital oil temperature display... they're ultra cheap too - mine was £350 with 4 new tyres, leather seats, alloys, mot etc
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